WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Alex V 4:09 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
I don't see it mentioned on this thread, so worth mentioning that the Mirror today says that we're looking to offload him.

daveyg 3:08 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
Joey5000
Totally right Joey.
He's been great for us at times. But is making more and more errors due to his age and lack of pace.
Against Astra I could see him being sent off as soon as his first yellow was given.
His second yellow was stupid, minutes after being booked he steps into a challenge like he did . If one of their players had done that we would be screaming for a red.
However Bilic should have taken him he off after the first yellow. We were cruising at 2-0 and the impetus swung straight to Astra. Another 10 minutes and we would of seen the game out.

WHUDeano 2:15 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
I'd keep hold of him as 4th choice this year and look to loan Burke out to a championship similar to how Tomkins went to Derby when he was first establishing himself.

Takashi Miike 2:14 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
bad fucking idea. that cunt nolan should be out the door before ginge

B6NY B 2:11 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
Give him time to think and he is utter shit.

Saying that, don't get many more brave in terms of trying to block etc

jimbo2. 2:11 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
What, when he is likely to play at CF on Saturday!

icwhs 2:08 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
Been a great servant to us, if he wants to stay, he should, if we were hanging on in a game, great to have him on the bench..
The comments on a mistake in 2010-12 ain't even getting addressed, ridiculous.

We were glad we had him last year when Reid was out, and not totally convinced re Ogbonna.. There again I didn't buy him for 10 million, Bilic did

Huffers 1:54 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
You wanted to keep Allardyce which was crazy. I disagree with you on this also but I understand the thinking behind it.

However, he is in the last year of his contract I believe so it he is happy to stay as 4th choice then great.

Mr Kenzo 1:53 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
We always seem to struggle with our centre halves getting injures, I would keep him till the end of the season and send the younger guns out on loan to get some experience.

the exile 1:48 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
A poor post, Junior, which totally disregards the points he has saved us with some outstanding defending. I agree with Rossall that he was at times our best defender last season. OK, he may be 4th choice but you can be sure that whoever is our 4th choice will be called upon to some degree this season. It's too early to write him off or let him go with Henry, Burke and Oxford being unproven at this level. As for his hoofing, yes, it can be annoying but I have no doubt Bilic will drum it out of him.

diehardhammer 1:44 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
Man City (A) Last season, ridiculous own goal. - That was pure bad luck FFS

Astra (H) This season, Silly sending off, costing us the whole tie. - Shit refereeing causing cost us that game.


the others were mistakes though. he is a good defender and people bring shit from over 3 years ago to beat him with

Rossal 1:37 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
Mr Polite 1:35 Wed Aug 19

Technically he isn't the best and his distribution looks to be improving which was needed

But as a defender at times he is top notch

Vs Aguero at home last season stands out

Mr Polite 1:35 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
joey5000 1:02 Wed Aug 19

spot on - he is a poor footballer

mongo 1:32 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
The amount people on this site who can't grasp the notion of having a squad baffles me. As soon as we sign someone there is always a thread on here saying we should sell someone.

If Collins wants to stay then he should. Great backup

Rossal 1:30 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
El Scorchio 1:16 Wed Aug 19

Spot on

People need to understand that players seemingly happy at the club though they dont necessarily play eg...Ginge, JOB etc are integral members of any premier league squad

El Scorchio 1:16 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
Also, many people don't seem to grasp the need for a squad. Just because someone isn't first choice you don't automatically try and move them on. You need strength in depth, or we end up playing 4 full backs in defence when a couple of players get injured. If we release Collins, we only have to go and buy someone else.

El Scorchio 1:14 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
He's made mistakes. All centre backs do.

He's been a very solid player for us in both spells at the club, and on a good day he's had the likes of Suarez in his pocket. Also a good alternative to Reid and Tomkins when you need a bruiser with authority and aerial ability.

As long as he's happy to sit on the bench for us, he's an OUTSTANDING 4th choice defender and the least of our problems. Seems like a good bloke as well, by all accounts.

Animal 1:11 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
He's our 4th choice Centre back and is a good player. When did we last have some strength in depth?

I imagine he'd be a positive influence on the training ground too

SnarestoneIron 1:08 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
joey5000 1:02 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go

Really? Or he has to get there at the last minute because somebody else is not doing their job.

For me, I'd keep him this season.

Lily Hammer 1:03 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
Keep him. Bloody good defender and charachter to have in the squad. And I noticed he hoofed it a lot less since Bilic arrived.

I suppose he's only got a year or two left on his contract.

SullyHammer 1:03 Wed Aug 19
Re: Time to let Ginger Pele go
Would rather others leave before him. I doubt he is on big wages either.

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